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Apr. 3rd, 2007 @ 12:07 am Rant #10
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From:queenpeladon
Date:April 3rd, 2007 05:22 pm (UTC)
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Woo, yeah!

Seriously, though, when I think of what happened to Pattie's career, it just kills me. I don't think it's ever a sacrifice worth making, to be honest, particularly when you're at the top of your game, as she was.
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From:padawansguide
Date:April 3rd, 2007 05:57 pm (UTC)
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I don't know much about Pattie's career - did she give it up for George?

I think it's a shame to give up a career if the reason is that you're a woman and that's what women do. To give up a career to just be a girlfriend or a wife. I suppose it matters if you enjoy said career or not. If you don't, well, maybe it's not such a sacrifice to give up. Anyway, I didn't see any of the Beatles giving up their career ambitions or aspirations at the time. John certainly didn't let getting his girlfriend pregnant stop him.

Anyway, for me, it's about choice, and if you choose a certain life, that's your business. Pressure to give it up, or giving it up because that's just what's done is something else entirely.
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From:queenpeladon
Date:April 3rd, 2007 06:41 pm (UTC)
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I think this video shows you all you need to know about Pattie & George's marriage. The sheer lack of conviction in her voice when she says that it's her choice to stay out of the limelight makes me want to weep, it really does.
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From:padawansguide
Date:April 9th, 2007 03:03 am (UTC)
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I just watched it.

Gee, why would a wife want to block the spotlight on her husband, right?

Yep.

So, did she quit modeling entirely when she married him?

I guess no 3 kids, either!
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From:queenpeladon
Date:April 9th, 2007 08:43 am (UTC)
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She did bits and pieces, but she just about jacked it in at his request.

And they didn't have the children because Pattie turned out to be unable to bear them, sadly.
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From:padawansguide
Date:April 9th, 2007 02:32 pm (UTC)
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Wow - I can't imagine a guy asking me to give up something like that. But I guess it wasn't uncommon back then.

Poor Pattie! No career, but no kids either!
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From:queenpeladon
Date:April 3rd, 2007 06:39 pm (UTC)
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I think that's the difference though - you're happy to give it up, it's your decision. I personally don't think Pattie would have given up her career, if the choice had been hers to make. But she doesn't strike me as a particularly strong, assertive woman, and I think she bowed easily under pressure from George.

I'm still not giving up anything for anyone though. Been there, done that, nearly lost the lot. Horrible.
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From:queenpeladon
Date:April 3rd, 2007 06:47 pm (UTC)
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"Then shame on Pattie for not having a backbone."

Yes, very true. I so much want to have been there, so I could give her a good shaking.
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From:pauls_left_hand
Date:April 6th, 2007 03:11 pm (UTC)
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whoops, should have read this before I shot my mouth off :)
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From:pauls_left_hand
Date:April 6th, 2007 03:10 pm (UTC)
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I don't think it's ever a sacrifice worth making, to be honest
Sorry, I'm a little late to the conversation here, but I just had to step in and comment, on a general note that is as I know zilch about George and Pattie's relationship and have little interest in it. I have to disagree with you though about it never being worth giving up your career for marriage and parenthood, when parenting is probably one of the most important jobs anyone can ever do. I get really riled by this attitude (and by 'this', I don't mean 'yours') that women (or men for that matter) have to be in paid employment to be pursuing a fulfilling and rewarding role in life.

I think you may be referring to just marriage in your comment above, rather than parenting per se, but one is usually intended to follow the other. Also, some people and particularly in some jobs, may need the full time support of a partner. I see nothing wrong with that if, and again this may be your point, that is what the supporting partner wants. For others, being a full time spouse/parent is what they want out of life and they should be supported in that, not pitied as a matter of course.
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From:queenpeladon
Date:April 6th, 2007 03:16 pm (UTC)
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I must say that parenting hadn't entered my mind during this discussion. It's not particularly relevant to my life at this stage.