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Apr. 3rd, 2007 @ 12:07 am Rant #10
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From:hb_princess
Date:April 6th, 2007 04:27 pm (UTC)
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See, this is why these comms are dangerous. I was honestly and completely BAFFLED by this rant when I first read it, and that in turn irritated me beyond all reason, and that in turn made me want to post something really short and snippy in response like "Bitch! Are you HIGH? WTF r u TAWKING about?"...and then I saw who wrote it.

In the immortal words of queenpeladon: *facepalm*

That said (deep breath) it STILL baffles me. And I mean that literally - in the sense that I don't even get where it's coming from. I read this and I thought, "This person actually sees enough 'OMG PAUL IS SOOOOO PERFECT, ALL THE OTHER BEATLES SUCK, PAUL CAN DO NO WRONG' that she's annoyed by it? Where the hell have I been?" 'Cuz I'm obviously missing out on all this crazy blinded Paul-love, you see. ;P Honestly, if you had said, "I just hate all the literary references, polysyllabic words and deep insights into human nature Fergie puts into her songs, she makes me feel so stupid!” I couldn’t have been more perplexed.

Without a doubt, there’s tons of gushing on the comms about teh pretty, but it’s hardly confined to the teeny-boppers. And - aside from a stray “Paul could never hit his wife, just look at that profile!” type of comment during the Heather debacle – I’ve never seen it used as a defense of him personally, or as proof that he’s perfect. If anything, most of the Paul fans on the comms I’m in are too damned apologetic…like there’s some moral ferryman to pay for – gasp! – liking the cute one.

And with regards to Paul’s “womanizing” and “cheating” on Jane…ah, this should probably be a separate rant, b/c it bugs me and it’s bugged me for a long time, but…guys? There is absolutely nothing wrong with having lots and lots and LOTS of sex when you are free and single. There was nothing wrong with it when Paul did it, there was nothing wrong with it when Linda did it…there’s nothing wrong with it if Jane did it (and for all we know she may have). If the average person had the opportunities these very hot people had to screw around with all sorts of other very hot people, he or she would take them.

And Jane? Ho, boy. I’m sorry, but I just have no sympathy for Jane. The bottom line is, Paul liked women and they liked him. And Jane going off and leaving the Most Eligible Bachelor in the world with nothing but her picture and his left hand for weeks at a time is the equivalent of saying, “There’s ten whole fried chickens and a wedding cake in the fridge, honey – good luck with your diet!”

Hmm. Maybe Paul wasn’t the only one in that couple with a slightly over-important image of himself.
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From:hb_princess
Date:April 6th, 2007 09:50 pm (UTC)
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Okay, now I getcha. :D I've been there, babe. In fact, I think my over-irritation with this rant was in large part attributable to reading many MANY incomprehensible things (that had absolutely nothing to do with you) over the previous few days.

THANK YOU! Seriously that is just what I was trying to say. I'm not saying that Jane shouldn't have had a career, I'm just saying that there are consequenses for every choice you make. She needed to decide what was more important, her career or Paul. Obviously her career, so Paul moved onto someone who decided he was most important, and dare I say it, rightly so!

Yeah. But now padawansguide is mad at me! ;P

Seriously, though, I do feel a Paul/Jane rant coming on. I think I need to do it, for my own sanity - Paul and Jane just do the Funky Chicken all over my brain.
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From:padawansguide
Date:April 6th, 2007 10:15 pm (UTC)
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I'm not mad - I just disagree with you, that's all!
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From:abromeds
Date:April 7th, 2007 03:57 am (UTC)
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I do feel a Paul/Jane rant coming on. I think I need to do it, for my own sanity - Paul and Jane just do the Funky Chicken all over my brain.

LOL, and agreed. DOOOOO EEEEEET!!!! :D
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From:padawansguide
Date:April 6th, 2007 07:32 pm (UTC)
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And Jane? Ho, boy. I’m sorry, but I just have no sympathy for Jane. The bottom line is, Paul liked women and they liked him. And Jane going off and leaving the Most Eligible Bachelor in the world with nothing but her picture and his left hand for weeks at a time is the equivalent of saying, “There’s ten whole fried chickens and a wedding cake in the fridge, honey – good luck with your diet!”


Hmm - does this only count if you're married to a Beatle? Or married to a famous person? Or just have an attractive spouse? I don't like the idea that it's the fault of the woman for trusting that her man won't screw around on her while she's out of his sight. That's a pretty sad statement on relationships. And frankly a sad statement on Paul. And if that was true of Paul, then Jane was better off out of it. I'd like to think Paul and Linda not being apart was for more reasons than that Linda couldn't trust him out of her sight...

Did Jane even have to be out of town for Paul to cheat? Wasn't she in town when she caught Paul in the act?
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From:hb_princess
Date:April 6th, 2007 09:38 pm (UTC)
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But that's my point. She WASN'T married to a Beatle. In fact - just examining what little we can see whilst peering into the murky depths of that relationship - she was barely dating a Beatle. Paul was clearly not the most important thing in her life (not saying he should have been; just saying he wasn't) - so why SHOULD he pass on all these "opportunities" he was getting for a girl who (to coin a phrase, ahem) "just wasn't that into him"? You know, if you want that level of fidelity, you better be prepared for that level of commitment. And it appears that Jane wasn't.

And I'm not talking only literal matrimony here - I just mean a mutual understanding that this is The One, the person with whom you intend to spend the rest of your life. And while a lot of people seem to believe that's what Paul and Jane had (or want to believe it, or assume it, or whatever) I'm not at all convinced they ever did.

Of course, all of this is speculation anyway...we know so little about Paul and Jane (and, boy, could I do a rant on them!) None of us really knows squat about why they got together or how they interacted or why they didn't work out. I know Jane had issues with Paul's level of commitment as well - in particular, how emotionally attached he was to the other Beatles, especially John. But until I see some new evidence that leads me to rethink it, I'm going to go with my gut and assume they were never really as serious about their future together as people generally believed.

I don't like the idea that it's the fault of the woman for trusting that her man won't screw around on her while she's out of his sight.

Ah, ah, ah! Be careful what you assume there, little missy. ;) I never said this was a male/female issue at all. If Jane was screwing every good-looking guy she fancied while she and Paul were apart, I have no problem with that, either...(and if Paul had a problem with it, fuck him and the double standard he rode in on.) They weren't "married," either factually OR emotionally.
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From:padawansguide
Date:April 6th, 2007 10:14 pm (UTC)
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You're right, they weren't married. But they were engaged, which to me means a certain level of committment. You might not be married, but you're not exactly single either. Is it really ok to screw around until you say "I do"? Anyway, I I can't answer why they got engaged if they weren't committed, and sure, it's not adultery if you're not married. But I would still hold a fiance to the same level of fidelity as a would a husband. Maybe that's just me.