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Apr. 4th, 2007 @ 11:32 am Rant Post #12
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From:abromeds
Date:April 7th, 2007 01:10 am (UTC)
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If Brian had been around, he would have never let the Magical Mystery Tour film be so amaturish. He would have not allowed the Apple fiasco to take place and he would have never let the Lennon/McCartney publishing rights be sold. Those things would have saved the band tons of money and unwanted stress.

I agree with everything, except I'm not sure what you mean about the L/M publishing rights. When were they sold, by whom, to whom? I honestly don't know. But anyway, yes, I already said I thought Brian's death was a factor, I just think other factors outweighed it -- artistic and personal differences, the effects of their insane fame, natural aging, drugs, etc.

if Brian's job was not a huge deal they would not have fought so hard in the Klein/Eastman battle. They knew they had to get the best person for the job becuase it was so important.

True, but why didn't they band together (forgive the pun) to find a suitable manager, as they had always done in the past over major decisions? Why did John and Yoko suddenly decide they wanted Klein and no one else, regardless of what anyone else had to say? Why did George and Ringo side with him? I think all that was because of already existing tensions unrelated to Brian's death.
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From:zyzzybalubah
Date:April 7th, 2007 05:08 am (UTC)
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Well, all the "already existing tensions" were mostly concerning the business deals and such that they were failing horribly at. But blah, blah, blah...LOL.

John & Paul's publishing rights were sold in 1968 or 69 without their consent because they only held like 49% stock in Northern Songs (which was the company that handled their songs) or something like that. It's another one of those complicated business headaches they got themselves involved in in the late 60's.
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From:abromeds
Date:April 7th, 2007 05:24 am (UTC)
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all the "already existing tensions" were mostly concerning the business deals and such that they were failing horribly at.

No, they were personal and artistic! ;P Yep, I think that's the root of our disagreement right there. Ah well, ATD. ^_^

Right, but Brian was the one who negotiated that 40% deal in the first place, right? Paul describes in his Howard Stern interview how in the early days Brian took him and John aside with a lawyer and asked them to sign the Northern Songs contract, which they did.
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Date:April 7th, 2007 05:25 am (UTC)
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*49%
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From:zyzzybalubah
Date:April 7th, 2007 02:03 pm (UTC)
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Well, if you've ever had to do business that involved money with family or friends, you would realize that the stresses from said activities add a great deal of strain to your normal relationship. For instance, say you have a friend who has a habit of picking their teeth and you think it's gross. Well, normally you would just think "That's gross but he/she is my friend so I'll deal with it". However, if you are in a business with that friend and you're losing thousands upon thousands of dollars everyday with no clear idea how to deal with it, the next time they pick their teeth you're more likely to go "STOP PICKING YOU FREAKIN' TEETH YOU DISGUSTING PIECE OF HUMAN CRUD! I CAN'T FREAKIN' STAND YOU ANYMORE"! So that's how their horrible business deals were adding to whatever personality differences they had. Because these differences just didn't arrive in 1968 or 69. When they were free to just make music and enjoy the benefits of being Beatles, they always managed to deal with their differences but after two years of managing themselves (badly) they were pushed to the point of no return. I mean, look at the Rolling Stones. Do you think there haven't been major personal conflicts in that band? For better or worse, they have managed to stay together for like 4 decades. I'm sure if Mick & Keith had ever decided to manage the band, they would've split up the next day. LOL.

As for the Northern Songs thing, Brian would've kept up with what was going on with the company and done his best to make it work for John & Paul because he had a big stake in that as well. As it happened, John & Paul didn't even know the company was for sale until after it had been sold.

I'm not saying that if Brian had lived The Beatles would have stayed together forever but I do think they would've dealt with their differences in a diplomatic way and maybe agreed to take breaks to go do solo projects and then reconvene for Beatles projects. Obviously, we'll never know but that's my theory. :-)
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From:abromeds
Date:April 7th, 2007 03:57 pm (UTC)
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I remain unconvinced. :)
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From:zyzzybalubah
Date:April 7th, 2007 07:41 pm (UTC)
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Well then why did they break up, Miss Wisenheimer? Because Paul made them play "Two of Us" a hundred times in a row? ;-P