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Apr. 9th, 2007 @ 08:00 am Rant #13
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From:adaveen
Date:April 9th, 2007 04:55 pm (UTC)
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I think we agree.

In fact, I don't think "Classic Rock" is the be-all, end-all of music. There have been a handful of bands in each decade that are supreme, untouchable, but I don't think they were all in the 60's-70's.

I love the Beatles - they completely RULED the 60's, and their music is still excellent and relevant today. The same as Queen from the 70's is still supreme and relevant today. The way U2 from the 80's is, and Nirvana from the 90's.

I consider myself a musical elitist, but certainly don't base that elitism around the 60's and definitely NOT around the 70's. In fact, my generation becames so fed up with the classic rock style in the 70's, adopted by faceless corporate rock bands, that we had to invent Devo, for pete's sake.

There's plenty of 60's bands I do NOT like - The Who and The Doors, for example.

There's plenty of great music now. I'll agree heartily, and maybe in a few years we'll find out which handful of bands have ruled the 'oughts'. There's quite a few great bands out there, and yes - lyrically and musically, they give "Beatle" quality. If they truly ARE great, they'll also match them in range, breadth and creativity, and the only thing that tells that is time.

I usally don't like recordings of covers much (live covers are fine), but it depends. If it's done very, very well, I'm hugely impressed all out of proportion.

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From:padawansguide
Date:April 9th, 2007 05:46 pm (UTC)
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I love Queen! I'm not a huge U2 fan - though I like some of their stuff. But they just don't do much for me generally. Which is such a hugely subjective thing. Crowded House does it for me, but I'm probably way in the minority there!

Anyway - there are some great bands from every decade, and plenty of crappy ones. I think it's we're still too close to modern bands to tell whose music will stand the test of time, but it's easier to see that for the 60s and 70s.
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From:adaveen
Date:April 9th, 2007 06:04 pm (UTC)
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I'm not a huge U2 fan, either, but I'm willing to admit they're iconic for the 80's. Crowded House was good, but I'm not sure we could call them "mythically" good, like Queen, like The Beatles, like Nirvana.

If MCR maintains, they might be a candidate. Foo Fighters? Naw, they're just "Wings" to Nirvana's "Beatles".

Only time will really tell.
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From:padawansguide
Date:April 9th, 2007 06:07 pm (UTC)
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Oh, I agree that U2 was iconic for the 80s. I wasn't saying Crowded House was. Just saying that I like their sound and U2's sound doesn't do much for me.

How about The Eagles?

MCR? I like Foo Fighters, but I don't think they have the mythos that Nirvana does. Though they certainly prove how disgustingly talented Dave Grohl is! :-)
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From:adaveen
Date:April 9th, 2007 06:13 pm (UTC)
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I like a few U2 songs, but like you prefer the Crowded House sound. (I'm a big BNL fan, too.)

I don't care for the Eagles, myself, but I'd say they were iconic for the 70's, although I think Fleetwood Mac has a bit more of the "mythos" charm.

MCR - My Chemical Romance - they've just gotten started into their best material. They're in the "Day at the Races" phase in their career. We'll see.

I like Foo Fighters, but Foo Fighters is to Nirvana what Wings was the Beatles. Good, but not - quite - the - same. Kurt=John/Dave=Paul ;)

PERSONALLY, I like anything that's humorous, either obvious or subtle.
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From:padawansguide
Date:April 9th, 2007 06:20 pm (UTC)
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BNL is great! :-)

I like the Eagles - I'm not as much as Fleetwood Mac fan, though I like a few songs. I think they are interesting because they are probably one of the few successful bands that had both male and female lead singers in the same band!

Ah yes - My Chemical Romance - I've only heard one or two songs on the radio from The Black Parade.

I would also say Billy Joel for the 80s. I love him.
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From:adaveen
Date:April 9th, 2007 06:55 pm (UTC)
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Billy Joel - yes, iconic.

I don't like either the Eagles or FM, but as a defining force for the 70's? Yes, probably either would do. Fleetwood Mac has a bit more drama behind it, and some more human interest story, which is why I would put them in the Beatley category. Didn't they breakup badly too?

I really like MCR, probably because they sound like Queen. I think if they can keep up at this quality and rate and keep people interested, yeah, they may be considered an Ought Iconic band.
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From:oh_johnny_
Date:April 9th, 2007 08:45 pm (UTC)
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I have a nubmer of friends who are into MCR, so I've been listening. Some of the Black Parade stuff is realy good, but I can't stand their lead singer's performance style at all. They are one of those bands that, for me, will always be better in the studio than in person.

Now, Green Day, on the other hand...
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From:adaveen
Date:April 9th, 2007 08:47 pm (UTC)
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Oh, Ada LOVES her some Green Day. :D
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From:abromeds
Date:April 12th, 2007 03:40 pm (UTC)
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Billy Joel for the 80s. I love him.

Me too, with a deep and undying passion. ^_^
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From:pauls_left_hand
Date:April 10th, 2007 07:51 pm (UTC)
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Nah, you see I don't think that U2 is iconic of the 80s. For me, for a band to be iconic, it has to be about more than just how overplayed their music was, it's also about how, if you think of them, you get an idea of the zeitgeist. The 80s? That was all big hair, bad clothes, flamboyance, all show and no substance - Duran Duran. Unfortunately. But maybe you were spared them in the States?
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From:padawansguide
Date:April 10th, 2007 08:06 pm (UTC)
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Maybe it's just perception - U2 was very big here in the 80s and 90s. Duran Duran was as well - but that was only one genre of 80s music. (I just wrote a long post in response to your other comment!)
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From:pauls_left_hand
Date:April 11th, 2007 08:06 am (UTC)
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Yeh, U2 were big here too. But if I think about them, I don't really get an impression of what the 80s were all about, unless it's being up yourself.

I agree with you that DD were just one genre, but if an alien was to come down to earth he could take one look at DD and get a fairly good snapshot of the decade.

What do you think of my alien iconicity test?
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From:chester_bnngton
Date:April 10th, 2007 03:56 am (UTC)
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I applauded the fact that you mentioned Nirvana but it broke my heart that you don't like The Doors hahahaha I'm way obsessed with that band too hahaha. (I'm only a real fan of these four bands: The Beatles, The Doors, Nirvana and Linkin Park) there you can see my tastes are not only from the 60's.... oh and if I add that I love Elvis and Buddy Holly, then, I do like the 50's too hahaha, I need a band to fill the 80's so I'd have a band/artist per generation. *lol*
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From:adaveen
Date:April 10th, 2007 12:08 pm (UTC)
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I can take the first 2 minutes of any Doors track, but after that, I want to beat the keyboardist to death.
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From:chester_bnngton
Date:April 10th, 2007 12:12 pm (UTC)
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*lol* well, yeah, that's true, the keyboard solos are quite tiring some times, but they do have some really good songs xD.... but each their own :D