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Apr. 18th, 2007 @ 07:28 am Rant #17
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From:abromeds
Date:April 18th, 2007 09:09 pm (UTC)
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There's nothing unusual about that, but it doesn't make it the right choice. As I said in my own comment, plenty of people would like to spend more time with their families, but they realise they have jobs to do - their own jobs, things that they are good at and do well in.

...or they realize they want to do something else with their life which, while it might look like it "wastes" their talent to outsiders, is what will bring them the most personal fulfillment.

Paul should've faced up to his insecurities about performing by himself

Maybe he would have been better off had he done so, but I can see why that was a huge issue for him, and it's hard for me to blame him for it.

and Linda should've focused on her own career.

...or done whatever the hell she wanted with her life without reference to us. ??? I just don't get criticizing people's non-hurtful life choices so harshly. Maybe you don't mean it harshly, I dunno.
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From:queenpeladon
Date:April 18th, 2007 09:17 pm (UTC)
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I think perhaps people who don't have such talents, or at least don't have the opportunities that she had to utilise them, just feel incredibly frustrated by what they perceive to be waste.

I realise I'm making a huge assumption about what others might value or want from life though. I just have a hard time imagining being Linda and not feeling completely shit about being in that band. But I'm not Linda, and I'm sure she was happy, more power to her, and so on.
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From:queenpeladon
Date:April 18th, 2007 09:19 pm (UTC)
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P.S. Regarding "without reference to us" - it's really not about her having to live up to public opinion at all. But you know that, right?
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From:abromeds
Date:April 19th, 2007 01:46 pm (UTC)
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Yes, I do, I was just referring to what you said above, about us as outsiders making assumptions about others' wants/values, etc. :)
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From:hb_princess
Date:April 19th, 2007 08:06 pm (UTC)
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just don't get criticizing people's non-hurtful life choices so harshly.

You just said in one line what I've been babble-assing all over the place TRYING to say. *facepalm*

Thanks, keed. ;D I don't know what I'd do without you lugging around the other half of my brain.
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From:abromeds
Date:April 19th, 2007 10:15 pm (UTC)
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No problem! It's not like it's HEAVY or anything!!! *ba-boom CHING* :D :D :D

Er, sorry, couldn't resist. And OMG shut up! I have been reading all your (deliciously long) replies in a haze of delight, admiration, and lust. If I still had my "let's fuck" icon, I'd soooooooooo be using it right now. :)
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From:minds_opaque
Date:April 20th, 2007 02:13 pm (UTC)
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Personally I have to agree with queenpeladon, that even if Linda being in the band wasn't so great for Paul, he could still make good music anyway, and the real issue was that she wasn't doing something she enjoyed and was talented at. And because of my personal values, that does bother me.

I don't know how much personal fulfillment Linda actually got from being in Wings so I can't really judge whether that was a good decision. I think a lot of the positives (being with Paul all the time) she could have gotten without actually going on stage with them, or while pursuing her photography career. Obviously, she and Paul felt differently.

Just to clarify, disagreeing with people's non-hurtful life choices doesn't mean judging them harshly. I wouldn't have made the choices Linda made, and I wonder whether they were good choices for her, but that doesn't mean I think she and Paul are bad people, and in the end, I don't know enough about them to make any objective statement on What Was Right For Them. I just don't see a problem with expressing an opinion about their lives, though. I wish I could think of some specific examples, but I know we do that on johnheartpaul all the time, about all the Beatles. And a lot of the time, there are no harsh judgments involved and no one makes any pretenses to be objective, so what's the problem?
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From:abromeds
Date:April 20th, 2007 08:49 pm (UTC)
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I wouldn't have made the choices Linda made, and I wonder whether they were good choices for her, but that doesn't mean I think she and Paul are bad people, and in the end, I don't know enough about them to make any objective statement on What Was Right For Them.

Exactly, I feel the same, but that last sentiment is one which I find lacking in some other arguments. That's my problem. I've explained it as well as I can further upthread.
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From:minds_opaque
Date:April 22nd, 2007 11:48 pm (UTC)
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I understand your problem. Are you sure they were trying to make some objective judgment, though? Maybe they were just expressing their opinions, too. :-P
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From:minds_opaque
Date:April 22nd, 2007 11:49 pm (UTC)
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Oh, and I can't find your comment in here about Linda being actually quite sassy and not at all a shadow-person, but I've been meaning to ask you why her image might have changed so much after she died.