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Apr. 18th, 2007 @ 07:28 am Rant #17
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From:zyzzybalubah
Date:April 19th, 2007 12:27 pm (UTC)

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"The fact that you even wrote this rant leads me to beleive that you have never been in
a relationship like Paul and Linda's"

True. I have never been so co-dependant on a girl that I have pressured her to drop everything that is her's so she can boost my ego and cater to my every whim.

And I'll say it YET AGAIN....
Paul and Linda could have been together everyday with Linda having to be on stage pretending to be a musician.
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From:zyzzybalubah
Date:April 19th, 2007 01:14 pm (UTC)

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I didn't think it was an attack. :-)

Here's another point I forgot to make yesterday. Remember how Paul was so adament about about getting Stu kicked out of the Beatles? Remember his supposed reasoning? Something like "I wanted the band to be very good" and Stu didn't really know how to play. I think this reasoning should have applied to Linda.

"True, but Paul wanted Linda in HIS band, and had every right to put her there, and she had every right to join."

Like I said to a similar response yesterday... just because Paul wanted it didn't mean it was a good idea. I sited other things Paul wanted. Writing and directing "Broad Street", working with Michael Jackson, marrying Heather Mills...etc. Now, putting Linda in every single one of his projects was not as disastrous as those things but it was still a silly idea.

"And honestly, if it sucked so bad, then I don't think Wings would have had the millions of fans that they did"

When I started getting into the Beatles and their solo stuff in High School, I remember watching the Rockshow concert movie and my mom (who was in her 20's in the 70's) walked in, saw Linda and said "Oh God, why did he have to always put her in everything." LOL. I believe that in 70's Linda was disliked by fans almost as much as Yoko. But. like with Yoko, she wasn't disliked because she was Paul's wife but because she obviously had no business being in the music business. Kinda like that Sanjaya guy on American Idol. LOL
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Date:April 19th, 2007 02:10 pm (UTC)

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All marriage is about sacrifice, and both sides have to make them. I suppose Paul sacrificed his "credibility as an artist" (as you put it) by having her in the band, and Linda put her photography career on hold for a while. But, had you researched a bit you would have seen that after wings broke up in the early eighties, Linda persued her photography again, and eventually started the vegetarian cookbooks, and Paul followed her around for a change.

That's true; I remember an interview where Paul talked about driving her around to her promotion engagements/demonstrations, heh. It was a cute quote...

Also, the vegetarianism and animal rights activism was definitely mainly Linda's passion, but Paul jumped in with both feet and put a lot of work into it. And I also believe Paul would have preferred to live in urban areas a bit more, but Linda didn't, so they stayed in the country. So there was sacrifice on both sides.
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Date:April 19th, 2007 02:36 pm (UTC)

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Oh, and I forgot to say...

You? TOTALLY BANNINATED!!! >;P

...only not really. :)
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Date:February 7th, 2009 02:58 pm (UTC)

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I think one thing that nobody seems to have noticed or felt the need to mention is dating/engagement/marriage/etc. perspective.

You mention the fact that the way that Paul and Linda operated with one another is similar to the way you and your husband operate with one another which may have been influenced by your parents. So, you, like others it seems, obviously have the perspective of someone who feels that their marriage was ideal.

But I, once again, like others, have the perspective of someone who feels that even in the closest marriages it seems only reasonable that each person have something to call their own, separate from each other. Not secret, but separate.

"The fact that you even wrote this rant leads me to beleive that you have never been in a relationship like Paul and Linda's."

You're right. I haven't. I couldn't be. I would become severely claustrophobic in a relationship like that. Personally, I would need to have my own thing. Something that I did by myself. Or else I'd feel surrounded and I need my independence. It's this perspective that causes me to look at their marriage and think, "Well, why can't she be a photographer on the road with her family instead of a 'musician'?" That's purely subjective, I know. But it still puts me on the side of those who think there was no reason for her to be in the music.

"I think they have set a model example of what familes should be, and that if more people would focus on raising their kids, we wouldn't have as many societal problems with our children."

Now, I see that and I think that you're implying that a marriage between two people who are not, for lack of a better phrase, "all up in each other's business" would produce, at best, somewhat unhealthy children. If my assessment is true then I want to point out that having a young girl watch her parents have to drop their own interests just to 'support' their spouse isn't exactly a great image either.

The choices they made were theirs' and theirs' alone and you're right. People should have their families as priorities in their lives. I just don't agree with the idea that "...if more women would follow Linda's example, the youth of today would not face nearly as many problems as they currently do (ie gangs, violence, rampant depression...the list could go on)."

Families first? Sure.

Kids = Priority? Great.

Them not being able to pursue their hobbies at the same time? Not so much.